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    Could Israel Cease To Exist As A Nation-State In The Near Future, And, If It Did, What Would Happen To The Evangelical Church?

    Published: Thursday, April 18, 2024

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    In the first few weeks following the start of Israel’s genocidal war against Gaza, I brought three messages on the subject. Those three messages are on ONE DVD, which is entitled End-Time Israel.

    The three messages on this DVD are:

    1. Is The Hamas/Israeli War Fulfilling Bible Prophecy?
       
    2. The Wars Of The Jews
       
    3. Jerusalem Was Ground To Powder Once: Could It Happen Again?
       

    I immediately thought of this message trilogy, and especially the third message, as I watched an interview by Nima Alkhorshid with former U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence Officer and U.N. Chief Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter.

    What Scott said blew me away.

    I know nothing of Ritter’s faith, and I’m sure he has never heard of Chuck Baldwin, but his analysis of the Middle East situation, specifically regarding the future of Israel, was surreal: It was as if he was watching my online sermons.

    In that third message listed above, I speculated the possibility that God could be in the process of giving Benjamin Netanyahu over to the same spirit of hate and self-destruction that God gave to the Egyptian Pharaoh at the time of the Exodus.

    Of course, most evangelicals erroneously believe that the Zionist state in Palestine is a resurrected Israel of the Bible and is, therefore, permanently and forever the “home” of the “Jews” as a prophetic fulfillment for the return of Christ.

    As expected, Mr. Christian Zionist, John Hagee, is beside himself with enthusiasm for an anticipated major war between Israel and Iran.

    Pastor John Hagee, founder of the Christians United for Israel lobbying group, said Sunday that Iran's retaliatory attack on Israel was the start of the "Gog and Magog war" from the Bible and said he's going to lobby Congress not to "deescalate" tensions and instead support Israel's war.

    "Pastor John Hagee this am says Iran's missiles are the prophetic start of the 'Gog and Magog' war from the Bible (that ends w/ Jesus returning and Jews killed or converted)," Lee Fang commented. "Says he will travel to DC to lobby lawmakers not to 'deescalate' and support Israel. Asks for money."

    Fang is right. The whole concept of Scofield’s convoluted concoction known as Christian Zionism/Scofield Futurism/Premillennial Dispensationalism, etc., and its “support for Israel” fascination is in reality a prescription for the introduction of a Jewish Holocaust that would dwarf any and all genocides of human history combined.

    According to Christian Zionism, all of this talk of war with Persia and the Arab states is a precursor for the supposed appearance of “Antichrist,” whose plan is to destroy the vast majority of Jews—and only then can Jesus return. Of course, Hagee and his fellow deluded evangelicals are going to be “raptured” to heaven before all of this takes place. Convenient, yes?

    But, as I have shown in my Israel and Prophecy messages, Christ’s New Covenant has completely abolished the Old Covenant made with Biblical Israel; in fact, the remnant of Biblical Israel in Jerusalem and Judea was completely destroyed in 70 AD by the Roman army in fulfillment of both Old and New Testament prophecies.

    Zionist Israel is a complete counterfeit, and the modern city of Jerusalem is NOT the Jerusalem of the Bible. Under Christ’s New Covenant, the “Jews” are NOT God’s chosen people. God’s elect are people of every race who come to faith in Christ.

    Therefore, it is absolutely untrue that modern Israel is promised any sort of “blessing,” “protection” or “perpetuity” in Holy Scripture. Israel is just another pagan antichrist state that opposes Jesus Christ, Christian people and everything the New Covenant stands for. As such, it sits under the judgment and condemnation of Almighty God.

    I challenge people to read again the books of the Major Prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel. The vast majority of what they wrote pronounced God’s judgment and destruction upon the wicked, apostate nations of Israel and Judah—prophecies which ALL came true.

    The Assyrian Empire completely destroyed Israel (the ten northern tribes) in 721 BC, as prophesied by God’s prophets. The Babylonians destroyed Judah (the two southern tribes), including the city of Jerusalem and the temple, in 586 BC, as prophesied by God’s prophets.

    The remnant of the Judahites was completely annihilated by the Romans in 70 AD, as prophesied by God’s prophets, the New Testament apostles, John the Baptist and Jesus Himself.

    Bottom line: The covenant with national Israel has been abolished for 2,000 years. There are no more prophecies for Old Covenant Israel. There are no “Jewish signs'' portending Christ’s Second Coming. And the Roman city of “Jerusalem” in Palestine today (originally named Aelia Capitolina, meaning “The City of Hadrian and Jupiter,” in 135 AD) has nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible, prophecy or the return of Christ. NOTHING.

    Again, Israel has no promise of perpetuity, no more than any other nation. How many countries have ceased to exist over the centuries? Here is a very short list of countries or empires (out of hundreds) that no longer exist:

    *Austrian Empire
    *Czechoslovakia
    *East Germany
    *German Empire
    *Irish Republic
    *Kingdom of Bavaria
    *Kingdom of Hungary
    *Kingdom of Greece
    *Ottoman Empire
    *Prussia
    *Rhodesia
    *Roman Empire
    *Russian Republic
    *Soviet Union
    *Tibet
    *United Arab Republic
    *Yugoslavia

    Question: Did any or all of these countries have a “right” to exist? The answer is a resounding NO! No nation has a “right” to exist.

    Rights are gifts from God to individuals. Countries have no such God-ordained rights. Countries have jurisdictional duties and obligations to the individuals they govern (“to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,” Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence), but not rights given by God. All the rights listed in our Bill of Rights are for the American people—NOT the state.

    Notice the rights (or freedoms) God gives to His people in His Holy Word: “Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.” (Mark 16:15). Here we see the right of free speech, the freedom of worship and the right of travel. “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (I Timothy 5:8) Here we see the right to work, the right to own property, the right to privacy, the freedom of parental authority, the right to self-defense, etc. We could go on and on.

    Nations are raised and destroyed by God—as a blessing or a curse.

    Jeremiah 18:5 – 10: Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,  O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel. At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.

    As the prophet said, nations are “plucked up” and “pulled down” by God at His Will. The rights given by God to people are NOT given to governments.

    So, to the heart of this column: Could Israel cease to exist as a nation-state in the near future, and, if it did, what would happen to the evangelical church?

    Here is a portion of Scott Ritter’s analysis in the interview referenced at the beginning of this column:

    I think Israel’s finished as a nation-state. I think that they have created the conditions for their own demise.

    Israel will never recover from this. And the global isolation will stay forever, because Israel will continue to resist the creation of a Palestinian State.

    And so, what’s going to happen is, life in Israel is going to become unlivable. And all these American Jews and all these European Jews that flew to Israel to live in their high rise, to live the nice life, and sip their coffee, and eat their kabob, or whatever they do, Israel’s not going to be able to sustain that lifestyle anymore. So, they’re going to flee by the millions, going back home. And what’s going to be left is the pathetic few, who have nowhere to go. And, therefore, the only route of survival is to be absorbed by a singular Palestinian national entity.

    That’s the future of Israel. They did it to themselves. They did it to themselves. Their arrogance, their murderous genocidal policies against the Palestinians has caught up with them.

    Israel’s finished. It’s over for Israel. I mean, they haven’t been counted out yet, but there’s no way Israel’s going to survive this struggle. That’s the genius of what Hamas did on October 7. Nobody wants to talk about that genius, but everybody knows that there’s an October 6 reality, and there’s a post-October 7 reality. The post-October 7 reality is: Israel’s finished.

    The Israelis today, the political Zionists today who reside in Israel, believe in Amalek! That’s why the prime minister can say it and stay in power! That’s why Israeli soldiers sit there and sing about annihilating the seed of Amalek. It’s their biggest mitzvah. That’s their path to glory; that’s their directive from God: to kill the Palestinian people! That’s why over 60% of them support what’s going on in Gaza. Because they’re all genocidal sick maniacs. And they will continue to be genocidal sick maniacs as long as they have a nation-state that sustains that mentality. A nation-state grounded in the artificial construct of Jewish Supremacy.

    There’s no such thing as Jewish Supremacy. They are not the Chosen People of God. They’re humans, just like everybody else. And until the Jews realize that in order to survive, they have to be part of the human race; they have to learn to get along with everybody as equals, not as superiors.

    The Jewish people are their own worst enemies. Both those who articulate in favor of Amalek in Palestine and those who are silent as this genocide takes place. If you’re a Jew out there, the best thing you can do right now is stand up against Israel and stop this nonsense. Because otherwise, Israel is going to be the seed of your destruction.

    If you have already watched my trilogy of messages on the End-Time Israel DVD—especially the third message—you must have said, “WOW!” as you read Ritter’s analysis.

    Will Ritter’s prediction come to pass? Is Israel finished? Will it soon cease to exist as a nation-state? Only God knows.

    But suppose for a minute that it IS true, and it really DOES happen. The 64-million-dollar question is, what would happen to the evangelical church?

    Who in their right mind would ever again listen to a word of what John Hagee, Robert Jeffress, Franklin Graham, Jack Graham, Kenneth Copeland, Greg Laurie and the rest of these Christian Zionist preachers had to say?

    If one day the world woke up and the State of Israel had disappeared—in the same way that the Soviet Union disappeared almost overnight from the list of nations—what would evangelicals do? Without the Israeli state, millions of evangelicals would have no faith. Virtually everything they believe about the Bible depends on that little Zionist State in Palestine. Virtually every doctrine, every teaching, every Bible lesson is intertwined with Zionist Israel.

    What would they do? What would they believe? What would happen to their faith?

    Think of the books, magazines, Sunday School lessons, sermons, seminary lectures, radio programs, television broadcasts and trips to Israel. Think of all the “prophetic signs” that have consumed millions of hours of discussion and elucidation that would suddenly mean absolutely NOTHING. Think of the “convictions” they have about the “rapture,” the “seven-year tribulation,” the “Antichrist” and even the Second Coming of Christ itself: Everything they have been taught, everything they have believed, everything they have confidently proclaimed to be true would come crashing down on their heads.

    What would they do?

    Some of them would lose their faith entirely because their faith was a false faith to begin with. Many of Christ’s followers only followed Him because of His miracles; they were never His true disciples. Likewise, many evangelicals have put their faith in the hocus pocus “signs” and “miracles” and “prophetic” euphoria associated with Premillennial Dispensationalism, NOT in the “take up [your] cross and follow me” Christ of the New Covenant.

    But I believe that in such a scenario, many millions of evangelicals—after having seen the foolish fallacy of ALL THINGS Christian Zionism—would begin flocking to the true New Covenant Gospel and to the brave preachers who understand and teach it.

    If that did happen, it would portend America’s Third Great Awakening. And who knows what would happen after that?

    P.S. We have just released a brand new DVD with five messages surrounding the death and resurrection of Christ. Many of my viewers requested that I compile and release a DVD such as this one. So, here it is:

    The DVD is entitled Christ’s Triumphal Entry, Death/Resurrection And Ascension: The Triumphant Triad Of The New Covenant.

    The five messages included on this DVD are:

    1. Christ's Triumphal Entry: A Visible Condemnation Of Israel And The Jewish Nation   
       
    2. The Crucifixion Of Jesus Christ: How It REALLY Happened
       
    3. The Three Curses That Were Nailed To The Cross Of Christ
       
    4. Christ's Resurrection: Victory Over The Pharisees, The Caesars And All Of The Evil Powers Of The World
       
    5. Christ's Ascension: A Visible Confirmation Of The New Covenant Church And Kingdom
       

    Watch this series of messages and you will see—like you never have before—the entire panorama of New Covenant truth established by these monumental events of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Order this brand-new DVD here.

    © Chuck Baldwin

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